'I do not agree with the shift from communal experience to individual minds and cognitive understanding. There must have been a shred [shared] experience of the horror of iconoclasm and subsequent darkly symbolic punishments, particularly as most members of the church would at some point be subjected to punishment. I feel that the evidence of the extensive use of these punishments and the iconoclasm is firm evidence that the reformation could not be accomplished purely intellectually. That these acts were necessary to force change, and also appealed to the symbolic and base physical ideas (embodied knowledge) of the people. I also feel the deep hypocrisy in the rhetoric of reformation and the physical manifestations of it must have been known to many of the normal people of the time.'

'It's hard to look at photographs of torture implements and see the Reformation as the intellectual process we're used to imagining it as: I had always envisioned the Reformation as a "liberation" from such ritualised oppression, which are more commonly associated with Catholic dogma. Seeing the Bible quotes taken literally and turned into justifications of such practices was quite a shocking revelation.'